Comments on: JQuery UI, CSS and IE

By: Phil

Phil — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:45:47 +0000

I feel your pain. Really, I do. But it is not the place of designers or developers to rise up and arrive at the door of anyone using Internet Explorer with pitchforks and torches. The fact of the matter is that IE is still used by well over 60% of the global market and abandoning support for that sort of market share is simply impractical.

You may find that your users are split more proportionately with their browser share, but you should still consider IE into your equation – either by providing gentle guidance on how to upgrade / move to a different vendor, or at least explaining why things might look funny when viewed in IE6.

As IE6 continues to age and fall behind current web standards, more companies are recognising the need to send it back to the world of shadow and flame from whence it came. This coupled with Microsoft’s realisation that IE needs to be generally better than it has in the past means that our lot as developers / designers is destined to improve – and soon.

By the way, Google has dropped support for older versions of IE for some products (e.g. YouTube).

By: Senica Gonzalez

Senica Gonzalez — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:07:52 +0000

When will we as designers take a stand against Internet Explorer? It is such a pain. I have not met one fellow designer/programmer who has not lost money due to that horrific excuse for a program. What would it take for us to unite and put a stop towards development for internet explorer? This is a serious question by the way. It is a matter of getting a better browser to this “majority” of web users? What is it? What would it take? Would it take a company like Google finally saying they don’t support it anymore?

By: siva

siva — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:19:14 +0000

as a developer these days we get requirement in the morning and we have to give the demo in the evening..in this rapid pace developer cannot sit to find a workaround for inconsistency created by frameworks, none has that much BW..we believe coming rel of jquery should give us some standard solun for this out of the box..

By: shetc

shetc — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:08:40 +0000

@tlaka DD_Roundies doesn't appear to work in IE8

By: Rand McRanderson

Rand McRanderson — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:14:13 +0000

@Phil I encountered the same issue with padding getting messed up and the solution I found was changing the css units from "em"'s to "px"'s, of course this requires you knowing the exact radii of those corners

By: tlaka

tlaka — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:31:17 +0000

I faced to a similar problem and I solved it using DD_Roundies, it works really fine.

By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:45:18 +0000

It should be noted that jQuery UI doesn't pretend to have the ability to create rounded corners in every browser. It takes advantage of the CSS3 spec for rounded corners so that browsers supporting that spec can benefit from the enhanced cosmetic experience CSS3 provides. IE is not part of that club yet (although is rumoured to address that issue and others in the upcoming IE9). There are some pretty heated philosophical debates on whether a design should look exactly the same in every browser. Sometimes there are good arguments for this, other times not. I personally take this view: http://dowebsitesneedtolookexactlythesameineverybrowser.com/.

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:21:42 +0000

Hey,

I don’t get it, i ran into the same problem. And many enthusiastic programmers are considering using jquery UI. But as someone mentioned earlier it’s not consistence. And i wanted to use this jquery UI because of its rounded corner ability fitting perfectly into my new webdesign.

So if they will not fix these kind of problems, it just keeps beeing a potentially great project.
Hope they will fixed it soon or someone has a consistant solution.

By: Phil

Phil — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:11:32 +0000

@Lowell – No web designer should be building anything that excludes a major portion of the browser market share. Decisions about which elements to include as part of the UI and which are flexible is a design choice, not a functional choice. jQuery UI allows you to retain all the same functionality regardless of browser, but also allows you to go one step further with more standards-compliant browsers (i.e. the rounded corners and other CSS3 features). If consistency of design is that important, just set the border radius of any ThemeRoller theme to 0.

By: Lowell

Lowell — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:33:17 +0000

Regardless of any opinion about IE, the fact is that most internet users use it. And so to design the UI to more-or-less not work for IE is simply foolish.

I’ll be checking out Moo Tools and whatever else pops up on Google.